Patrick Condon

Life

How we know this: Moderate to strong for his marriage, work, residences, and six children; his birth is age-derived and his later life is unknown. [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8]

Work and occupation

• Labourer

Where they lived

• 1865: Maghna, County Cork, Ireland
• 1865–1868: Maghna, County Cork, Ireland
• 1870: Moherna, County Cork, Ireland
• 1872: Rathcarrig, County Cork, Ireland
• 1874–1878: Flemingstown, County Cork, Ireland

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Historical context

These background articles explain the places, work, and events in this entry.

What we still don't know

• Exact birth and baptism
• Identity of his mother
• Baptisms or other proof for Bridget and Johanna
• Land or valuation records
• Death and burial
• [THE REGISTER, READ AT LAST] His marriage entry of 7 September 1865 at the chapel of **Castlelyons** gives him as **25**, a bachelor and a **labourer** of **Maghera**, son of **John Condon, deceased, Labourer**. **No mother is named**, because the form does not ask for one — which is the whole reason Mary Cashin has never been supported. He signed with his mark. The image had been cited here as 'civil image' and never read.
• [HE WAS HERE TWICE] A second **Patrick Condon**, dated 1831, stood in this archive as *'a Staffordshire/Canadian branch created in our family tree as husband of MARY B RYAN'* — **married to the very same Mary Ryan as this man**, and a son of the same John Condon. One woman does not have two husbands both called Patrick Condon son of John Condon. Merged 9 August 2026. **Nothing found him for months**: their birth years differed, their children differed, and their parent sets differed only because **their mother was duplicated too** — one duplicate hiding another. The duplicate detector now also flags two people of one name who share a spouse, which is what caught it.
• [THE 1911 CENSUS IS ALMOST CERTAINLY HIS] Two independent things now point the same way. His children **Catherine and James were baptised at Ballindangan** in 1874 and 1876; and the 1911 census has a **Patrick Condon, 71 — born 1840 exactly — a farm labourer, Roman Catholic, with a wife Mary of 70, living at Ballindangan**. Same townland, same names, right birth year, right occupation, right religion. The reservation that stood here yesterday — that Patrick Condon with a wife Mary is a common Cork pairing — is much weakened by the townland matching as well. It is not formally attached only because no record yet links the 1911 household to a named child.
• **The family moved.** The baptisms run Castlelyons in 1868 and 1870, Rathcormack in 1871, then Ballindangan in 1874 and 1876 — a labouring family shifting across north Cork, which is also why their children's registrations give Maghna, Moherna, Rathcarrig and Flemingstown.
• Death and burial; Patrick’s mother; land/valuation entries; baptisms for the two unproved children.
• His exact birth remains unknown; the marriage age implies about 1839–1840. The row names no mother, so Mary Cashin is not proved as Patrick’s mother.
• [CONFLICT] Mary Cashin remains an unproved mother; Bridget (1873) and Johanna (1875) remain compiled/unproved children; Patrick Condon born about 1831 remains a separate profile.
• [PLACE CONFLICT] The archive carries “Maghna” and “Moherna” as two separate County Cork townlands, nine kilometres apart, and both are recorded with approximate coordinates rather than verified ones. They are very likely one place. The 1868 birth register plainly reads “Mohera, Castlelyons” for both the birth place and Patrick's dwelling, and his 1865 marriage gives his residence as Maghera. If these are one townland, then part of the family's apparent movement across the countryside — Maghna to Moherna — is an artifact of transcription rather than a real move, and only the later moves to Rathcarrig and Flemingstown are genuine. Do not merge the two place records until the townland is verified: logainm.ie and townlands.ie both refused automated access on 6 August 2026 and need a human with a browser, or the Griffith's Valuation index for Castlelyons parish.
• [A PROBLEM IN THE BAPTISMS] **Hannah is baptised on 10 March 1870 and Ellen on 11 April 1870**, a month apart, to the same parents. One woman cannot bear two children a month apart. Either one baptism belongs to a different Patrick Condon and Mary Ryan — there were several in the county — or a date is wrong, or one child is a late-baptised elder. This archive carries Hannah as born 1872, which the register contradicts. Unresolved.
• [CONTROLLED NEGATIVE — AND IT MATTERS MORE NOW] With the parish registers searchable, a search for any Condon child of a **John Condon and a Mary Cashin** born 1830–1852 returns **nothing in Ireland at all** — only Leicestershire Condons of other families. His parentage is flagged *compiled* with sixty-eight people below it and the obvious record does not exist in the index. Either the family's parish is not in the indexed set, or Mary Cashin is not his mother — which is what his own marriage row already hinted, naming only 'John Condon deceased'.
• [AN ARTEFACT CHILD] The duplicate brought with it a daughter, **Mary Condon of 1855** — ten years before this Patrick married Mary Ryan in 1865, and part of the same Staffordshire/Canadian invention. She is attached here pending a test rather than deleted, and she should probably not be his.

References

1. [1] civil imageBack to citation 1a Back to citation 1b Back to citation 1c Back to citation 1d
2. [2] indexBack to citation 2
3. [3] civil imageBack to citation 3
4. [4] Irish civil marriage register — Patrick Condon and Mary Ryan, 7 September 1865Back to citation 4a Back to citation 4b
5. [5] Irish civil birth register, Catherine Condon, 19 April 1874, Flemingstown, Mitchelstown districtBack to citation 5a Back to citation 5b
6. [6] Patrick Condon household, 1911 census of Ireland, Ballindangan, Derryvillane, County CorkBack to citation 6
7. [7] Baptism of Catherine Condon, Ballindangan, 20 April 1874Back to citation 7
8. [8] Baptisms of the children of Patrick Condon and Mary Ryan, County Cork, 1868–1876Back to citation 8

See also

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