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Mary Cashin Condon

This entry is about Mary Cashin Condon (Dates not recorded). For other family members with the same first and family name, see Mary Condon (1855 – 1918), Mary Condon (Born 11 July 1878; death not recorded), Mary Condon (Born 1882; death not recorded).

Dates not recorded

Mary Cashin Condon is named in our family tree as John Condon's wife and the mother of Patrick and Ellen Condon; no life dates are known.

Family story - not yet proved

Mary Cashin Condon is named in our family tree as John Condon's wife and the mother of Patrick and Ellen Condon; no life dates are known.

Recorded as: Mary Cashin

How is this person related?

Andrew John Leahey’s great-great-great-grandparent

Worked out from the recorded parents and marriages. No sex is recorded for anyone in this archive, so the wording stays neutral.

How this person is related to Andrew:
Mary Cashin Condon is your 3× great-grandparent.

Life

Mary Cashin Condon appears only in our family tree. It identifies her as John Condon's wife and assigns Patrick Condon and Ellen Condon as their children, but this archive contains no quoted record for her.

Her birth, residence, marriage, and death are unknown. The proposed link to Ellen, whose tree entry points to County Clare and whose burial is recorded in Queensland, is not independently confirmed.

How we know this: Very weak: her identity and family connections rest entirely on an unverified our family tree. [1][2][3][4]

Family

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Children

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Where they lived

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Places listed on this page

  • Castlelyons, County Cork, Ireland
  • Maghna, County Cork, Ireland
  • 200 18th Street, Jersey City, Hudson County, New Jersey
  • Coole, County Cork, Ireland

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Timeline

Possible family record [INFERENCE]

Patrick Condon’s Castlelyons marriage names deceased father John Condon, labourer. Assignment to this wife/mother profile is conditional on the compiled Patrick-son edge; the record names no mother. [1]

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Original records

Civil birth register, Mary Condon, 11 Jul 1878, FlemingstownTap to open a larger copy

Civil birth register, Mary Condon, 11 Jul 1878, Flemingstown

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Civil birth register page, Mary Condon candidate, 1878, entry 2076933Tap to open a larger copy

Civil birth register page, Mary Condon candidate, 1878, entry 2076933

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Civil birth register page, Mary Condon candidate, 1878, entry 2080792Tap to open a larger copy

Civil birth register page, Mary Condon candidate, 1878, entry 2080792

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Civil birth register page, Mary Condon candidate, 1878, entry 2080795Tap to open a larger copy

Civil birth register page, Mary Condon candidate, 1878, entry 2080795

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What the records say

4 records transcribed.

Record exhibit

Civil marriage registration — Patrick Condon, 7 September 1865

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Verbatim transcription currently held in this archive — reproduced in full.

Seventh September 1865 ... Patrick Condon ... 25 years ... Bachelor ... Labourer ... Maghna ... John Condon deceased ... Labourer.

Record exhibit

Irish civil marriage register — Patrick Condon and Mary Ryan, 7 September 1865

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Verbatim transcription currently held in this archive — reproduced in full.

[RECORD] “Seventh September 1865” | “Roman Catholic Chapel of Castlelyons” | “Patrick Condon” | “25 years” | “Bachelor” | “Labourer” | “Maghna” | “John Condon deceased” | “Mary Ryan” | “22 years” | “Spinster” | “resident with her Parents” | “Coole” | “James Ryan” | “Labourer.” [INFERENCE] Patrick’s age implies birth about 1839–1840. [COMPILED][CONFLICT] The row names no mother of the groom, so it does not prove Mary Cashin as John’s wife or Patrick’s mother.

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civil image

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Marriage of PATRICK CONDON and MARY RYAN on 07 September 1865, | Roman Catholic Chapel of Castlelyons | 25 years, | Maghna, | John Condon deceased, | 22 years, | resident with her Parents, | Coole, | James Ryan, | John Condon deceased | Mary Cashin | Maghna | Coole | 200 18th | Bachelor | Labourer, | James Ryan | Labourer | Marriage of PATRICK CONDON and MARY RYAN on 07 September 1865 | Mary Ryan, | Spinster, | resident with her Parents.
Show the full recordHide the full recordFull record, about 100 words| deceased, | PATRICK CONDON … 25 years [RECORD] “September 7th 1865” | “Patrick Condon” | “25 years” | “Bachelor” | “Labourer” | “Maghna” | “John Condon deceased” | “Mary Ryan” | “22 years” | “Spinster” | “resident with her Parents” | “Coole” | “James Ryan” | “Labourer.”

Record exhibit

register

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Proved by a record

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Dempsey Funeral Home Burials - 1924 - 1937, [NEGATIVE] Controls include “Mary Condon ... 01/11/1929 ... 501 Boulevard ... Aged 60y, Born Ire, Widow” and “Patrick Condon ... 05/04/1928 ... 501 Boulevard ... Timothy/Ire | Bridget McNeil/Ire.” No row supplied John Condon with wife Mary Cashin or the Castlelyons parent pair. The site cautions that “some of the entries are faded and hard to read.”

Historical context

These background articles explain the places, work, and events in this entry.

What we still don't know

  • Birth, parents, marriage, residence, death, and burial
  • Whether Patrick Condon and Ellen Condon were both her children
  • [SHE WAS HERE TWICE, AND SHE MAY NOT EXIST AT ALL] She stood in this archive as both *Mary Cashin* and *Mary Cashin Condon*, married to the same John Condon, each with a different Patrick for a son. Merged. **That is the smaller problem.** The larger one is that **no record anywhere supports her**: her supposed son Patrick's 1865 marriage names only *'John Condon deceased'* and no mother; and the Irish Catholic parish registers, now searchable and tested twice, contain **no child of any John Condon and any Mary Cashin** — not for Patrick, born about 1840, and not for Ellen, born about 1842. Between them those two carry **145 people** in this archive. Mary Cashin is a name from a tree with nothing behind it.
  • The 1865 marriage does not name Patrick’s mother and cannot prove Mary Cashin as John’s wife or Patrick’s mother; obtain a baptism naming both parents or John and Mary’s marriage.
  • The Patrick Condon–Mary Ryan marriage row names only the groom’s father, John Condon deceased; it does not prove Mary Cashin as John’s wife or Patrick’s mother.
  • [NEGATIVE] The 1865 marriage successfully names groom’s father John Condon, bride Mary Ryan and her father James Ryan, but has no mother-of-groom field and no Cashin. Six child births consistently say Mary Condon formerly Ryan. A controlled complete linked Dempsey sweep supplied Condon hits but no John Condon–Mary Cashin pair.

References

  1. [1] Civil marriage registration — Patrick Condon, 7 September 1865Back to citation 1a Back to citation 1b
  2. [2] Irish civil marriage register — Patrick Condon and Mary Ryan, 7 September 1865Back to citation 2
  3. [3] civil imageBack to citation 3
  4. [4] registerBack to citation 4

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